The anger over Charlie Kirk's death continues, this time aimed at the ankle biters on the Right, with special attention aimed at a certain cult-building dark lord.
I expected acrimony from this post and got it. But I am surprised at the level of disagreement over my statements about "Judeo-Christianity." Quite a few of the comments deserve a non-snarky, decently researched response. So I've started reviewing some scripture I haven't looked at in a long time and hope to have a proper response in a week or two. The subject is extremely important. Judeo Christians form the core of the Republican Party. Expel them from the coalition and you lose the country to the Demoncrats permanently.
Judeo-Christian has always been a lie. It started as a lie to make it easier to convert Jews. It is now a lie meant to bend the theology of Christianity. As a Jew, I understand the intent behind taking something like this and trying to use it in a different way. But dishonesty is still dishonesty, and you can build nothing on sand.
We are Jews. And we are Christians. Against an evil pagan empire, there are many ways in which we can work together. But only from a foundation of truth.
How we break this to the core of the Republican Party? Your guess is as good as mine.
This is because you’re trying to bring basic bitch 80s boomer Republican evangelicalism to a platform where right wing discourse is significantly more advanced. Try Facebook.
I doubt Vox or his admirers (count me as one) will be as offended as you seem to think. Your political coalition building points are well and good but we tend to consider that ANY coalition that included neocons is more of a subversion than a solution. And Charlie Kirk was under their thumb until very recently, so we did not not care about him on a talk to the puppetteer not the puppet príncipe. That is a little reductive, but is worth it generally for clarity of analysis.
Do understand that the United States has forfited all consideration in the international scene. Its a giant rogue state that not only meddles and attacks everywhere, but has made vile murders of negociators SOP, like in the case of Iran, undermining protections of envoys that are older than the written world.
Which leads US back to Denis Praguer. I used to listen to his radio show. Don't let his avuncular manner and his well read facillity with the western Canon fool you, he is as rabid a neocon as his co-ethnic Robert Kagan (though the smarter of the two) and therefore an enemy of humanity in general and of the European Nations in particular.
As for conventional historography, read L'Europe et lá Révolution Française by Albert Sorel, a book often found on bibliographies but rarely taken to heart, and tell me your faith in Napoleonic studies survived. Like Vox and Unz, we tend to consider all history to be as full of comunication ops and psyops as modern Times. Better to be always on guard and all that.
Jesus did deprecate many of the additions and subtractions to the written law that are still practiced by modern Jews. Jesus was definitely frown upon having a Sabbath Goy to do work on the Sabbath -- a clear violation of the written commandment. I don't he'd think much of the cord that surrounds Manhattan so Orthodox Jews can consider the area one home for travel purposes, etc.
everyone. Jesus was *willingly* sacrificed for the sins of ALL humankind. have you actually ever read the Bible, or paid any attention whatsoever in church?
my reply to that well written, but somewhat confused, article...
Yahshua was “Jewish” because He was from the tribe of Judah; Jesus was brought up in Judaism, but rejected it because of it teaching false doctrines and made that clear. He would reject many of the mainstream Christian doctrines of today as well.
Judaism is the manmade religion created in response to the OT scriptures. Christianity (mainstream) is the manmade religion created in response to the NT scriptures. both have been in error, ignoring the commandments of YHWH (Jesus/Yahshua) in that Judaism created its own laws making them equal to or above YHWH's laws and rejected Yahshua as Messiah, while mainstream Christianity rejects Jesus as Christ for disobeying His torah/instructions.
Jesus fulfilled (obeyed) His own law, yet deceived mainstream Christians teach that means it was selectively done away with; for example, falsely teaching “the 10 commandments are all valid laws of God, but not His Sabbath”. so mainstream Christianity replaced Jesus' own Biblically appointed times with pagan days of worship, like Christmas, Easter, and even Halloween — none of which are Biblical.
many among the manmade religions of Judaism and Christianity continue to “come out of her”, because both have exemplified themselves as Babylon for whoring after false gods. a great many more will accept Jesus Christ, Yahshua Messiah, in the very end of days when the final antichrist steps into the third temple which will be built (or partially built), and when YHWH returns to set up His Kingdom for 1000 years.
beware of adopting a self-righteous or prideful attitude about being Christian while also considering the “Jews” doomed to eternal death (or “eternal torture”, for those still deceived by the “hell” doctrines). carefully read Romans chapters 9-11. we Gentiles are the branches grafted into the trunk which is Israel — “Israel” has various meanings, but in this instance, “Israel” = the children of God.
if we are truly followers of Jesus Christ, then we are truly Israel in Yahshua Messiah — there is no separation between YHWH & Israel, His children. further, if we do not stand with “Israel” as the current nation of people in the land, then we are standing with satanic jihadists.
YHWH stands with ALL of Israel, therefore, so should we. 🙏🏼😎❤️♾️
the faith he taught has virtually nothing in common with today's mainstream Christianity either. it's easy to understand this if you both to search the scriptures at all.
So that magically transforms Jesus and most of the 1st Century Christians, and most of those who wrote the Bible, into non-Jews? That's some powerful magic today's Joooz have over reality. Maybe Peter, Matthew, et al weren't really Christians because they have virtually nothing in common with the churchians of today.
The only reason anyone today says "Jesus was a Jew" is to pretend that today's Jews are somehow "holy" and "chosen" when anyone who pays any attention to the narrative arc of the Bible can see that they are faithless and cursed by God, and that's without even bothering to examine their behavior, which is unbelievably wicked.
I affirm exactly what the Bible says, the Jews killed Jesus.
Depends on what you mean by “the Jews.” Did Peter, Paul, James & John kill Him? Did Sylvia Lipshitz in Queens kill Him? No. Did heretical, unrepentent liars, thieves, and blasphemers, who happened to have the same DNA, frame Him for non-crimes and turn Him over to the Romans to be executed? Obviously yes.
Maybe the only reason you specify details is to fit some agenda. Others specify details when they are true.
You affirm the one part of the Bible that fits into your Narrative, and ignore or deny what doesn’t. You’re rather predictable that way.
technically, he *was* brought up in rabbinical Judaism, however, He wound up rejecting it because it was a religion of man, not of YHWH. many of His parables then slammed the corrupt priesthood for failing in its duties that YHWH gave them, particularly in the 5-part parable found in Luke 15 & 16.
yet, Jesus/Yahshua was in fact Judeo-Christian. the fact that neither religion actually obeyed God all that well doesn't mean YHWH (Jesus /Yahshua) didn't give them TRUTH. they both have the scriptures, but both go whoring after other gods. so if you're lost in these understandings, i suggest studying your Bible further. Godbless... 🙏🏼😎❤️♾️
There are a lot of social media inflooincers who think they are so important, even tho Charlie Kirk did more IRL activism than they will probably do in their whole lives. "Look at me! I'm so BASED" It's just so annoying prideful. I think this John Doyle rant is probably the best take and I stand by it: https://youtu.be/RE0t_-aYUow?si=rRub6DvAoQOlo1NM
My post about picking a fight with Vox Day is in my top five. For some strange reason, a year later, comments are over 300, a few guys out of nowhere shredding each other, one of them mirroring Vox about Charlie. Quite pathetic.
I didn't know Vox's history when I called out his nihilism. I'm feeling rather justified.
When it comes to verbal IQ, Vox is above me. Mathematically, he is at least two sigmas below me -- as well as a bunch of his fans. I suspect you are too dumb to see the difference.
I had to laugh at this one. I've known the man for 40 years. He's a physicist, mathematician and a coder (in approx. 20 languages) that was once tasked with coding special relativity considerations to correct problems with the nascent GPS system.
Most people know a little about a wide variety of things. FM can explain to the sub-atomic level just about anything you ask him. People are fooled by his relatively down-to-earth prose, but that's one of the things I admire the most about him.
"I am a fully licensed and certified asshole." Whoa, wait a minute. Licensed and certified by who? Where is the notarized and fact checked c.v.? I worked in the service of my country as a Deck Group CWO where the job description was "Paid Asshole". Now granted, I wasn't as great an asshole as any Marine CWO, but I was surely thrice the asshole over an Army or Coast Guard CWO. This is not a stolen valor issue, just that "it takes one to know one". I am certified (DD-214). I see nothing in your writing that gives you the right to declare you are an asshole. Except maybe glomming on to that hallowed appellation without proof. That was a weak but a sort of OK first step, I guess.
And England remained the primary investor in the United States after the Revolution and the United States still has strong ties with Britain. We have a President whose mother was born in Scotland.
Britain is technically a Christian theocracy. King Charles is a walking refutation to those who think we can be Christian Nationalist by becoming a monarchy.
A critical step to becoming Christian Nationalist is going back to being Christian. Charlie Kirk was doing more in this regard than anyone else in the country.
First of all, the sad and heroic truth is that Charlie Kirk’s death accomplished much more for the Right than his life ever did. One bullet took him from a mediocre Zionist mouthpiece to an icon of resistance. May God have mercy on his soul.
Vox Day on the other hand has published dozens of high quality leather books that will last for centuries. His intellectual contributions to human taxonomy (his Socio Sexual Hierarchy) and economics (against free trade) are irreplaceable.
Only baby boomers and gammas write with sound effects. And only gammas think admiring someone’s work is “brown nosing”. Yes leather books are fucking awesome.
Vox Day brought me a fantastic library. You brought me a shitty blog post to skim. Who do you think has my respect?
Baby boomer alphas have been known to mock with sound effects. Note our current president.
Let me try again without the snark. A well made book can last for centuries. Might even get read centuries later. A soul brought to Christ lasts even longer. Charlie Kirk was bringing the word of God to hostile territory and arguing for it to people whom you could never drag into a church. That is difficult but incredibly important work. More important than Vox's current projects. More important than mine.
There is no Christian Nationalism without the Christian part. Great Britain is a Christian theocracy on paper. Britain went post Christian well before the US. They thought of us as bumpkins because so many of us were still taking Christianity seriously.
As for the zionist part, Southern Baptists and related denominations pay a lot of attention to the end times prophecies in the Bible. Either the prophecies are wrong or Jesus isn't coming back until after the Temple is rebuilt. The old denominations claiming Apostolic Succession -- including the Anglican Church -- pay much less attention to these prophecies due to past false alarms.
Unlike past false alarms, there is now a Jewish state that is working towards rebuilding the Temple. Humans now have the technology to cause many of the woes in Revelation. Fire and brimstone like power we have had since World War II. We're getting pretty good at man made plagues. We probably have a few decades before we can divert asteroids -- but SpaceX' Starship will give us the ability to bring atomic engines to the asteroid belt, and the financial incentives to mine asteroids are truly huge.
Long lasting books might prove to be irrelevant. Making Christian converts is always relevant.
He asserted that the souls of human beings are more importand than leather book covers. Your brilliant counter argument is to complain about sound effects and accuse him of boomerism.
Boomer Donald Trump was attacking free trade back in the 80s.
The social sexual hierarchy is likely plagiarized from Timothy Leary's 8 circuit theory of the human mind, which is described in Robert Anton Wilson's "Prometheus Rising." I know that Vox was aware of Wilson as Vox was a libertarian in the past and mentioned Discordianism in one of his comics.
And for the record, I'm only five years older than Vox. Spare me the Boomer bullshit.
"Vox Day on the other hand has published dozens of high quality leather books that will last for centuries. His intellectual contributions to human taxonomy (his Socio Sexual Hierarchy) and economics (against free trade) are irreplaceable"
That's a good one. I can just see the men of 3000AD listing the works of Vox Day along side Shakespear, Newton, Einstien, Adam Smith and so on. The leather binding absolutely shows the high quality and durability of the contents.
Vox blocked me for "repeatedly defending boomers". Its funny because I merely pointed out that he was promoting all the bad ideas that the boomers practiced to run our society off the rails. If you think it is acceptable to sleep with another man's wife, or live a selfish, hedonistic lifestyle, completely unconcerned with how that will affect the rest of society, and our posterity, you are living with a peak shithead boomer mentality.
The "boomers" I was defending were men like my father who lives on less than he makes and will leave an inheritance to his children's children.
I've attacked Vox in his own comments recently, and trolled the heck out of him back on his old blog without him catching on, but this post is stupidly wrong.
Israel is blackmailing or bribing over two-thirds of Congress, has repeatedly spied upon and infiltrated the US government, and committed multiple acts of war against the United States. If you have American citizenship and adhere to the cause of Israel, giving them aid and comfort, as Charlie Kirk did, that is treason punishable by death under the US Constitution and Code, even if you look like you night be walking back some of that support later. There is no statute of limitations on treason, nor on crimes against humanity, which support for Israel's actions also is.
I'm cool with arresting Israeli spies playing this game in our country and impeaching those who are blackmailed yet serving in high positions of authority such as Congress. I'd love to see the dirty laundry related to Epstein even if no arrests are made. Remove the blackmail potential even if it causes embarrassment to the powerful.
Do keep in mind that such nastiness is pretty common. The blackmail honeypot game was a standard KGB tactic, and those who had clearances were warned to expect a seduction attempt should they visit the Soviet Union. The United States plays the same game -- TO OUR ALLIES. That's what disgusted Edward Snowden.
(If the Clinton campaign had claimed that the Russians have pictures of Trump sleeping with Russian seductresses I'd have believed the campaign. But since Trump was a known playboy, there would have been no blackmail potential. Trump could have said that the seductress was hot and a great lay -- great Russian hospitality -- and moved on. So the Clinton campaign had to move into unbelievable territory, etc.)
Wanting to protect Israel is separable from agreeing with all Israeli government policies.
Christian zionism goes back a ways. Long before Fox News, the closest thing to a television conservative news broadcast was Pat Robertson's 700 Club. Back when I was in high school it came on after Benny Hill. I used to get some great laughs over how over the top Pat and Ben were cheerleading Israeli violence in Lebanon.
And yes, he is also proof that the gamma theater kid can be a playboy dating hot chicks, contrary to Vox's SSH bullshit. "Dead Poet's Society" isn't completely science fiction. (And yes, I have seen similar in the real world. Many hot chicks go for the sensitive New Age guy. One of Edgar Rice Burroughs' character complained about the phenomenon. I think it was John Carter of Mars.)
Cole(Stein) once said that Hitler had no chance against the greatest storytellers of all time. He knows that he is from The People of the Lie and that he is a degenerate jew just like all the rest.
The Holocaust is a lie and he knows it, yet he has backed off from his youthful assertions that gained him much notoriety.
It's not that hard to discredit Prager after he was exposed as a gooner on Pints with Aquinas. You are not credible, nor a reactionary, just a lazy reader and researcher.
The Gentiles were grafted into the New Covenant Jesus Sacrificed his life for, The Old Covenant With Noah was annulled. The Righteous Religious Jews of the time like Nicodemus became Christians. The Pharisees made a whole new religion that is not righteous.
Yes Jesus was Jewish as a man, but he made a New Covenant and grafted gentiles in. This New Covenant has nothing to do with modern judaism.
Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Yes Observe the Jewish Laws because the New Covenant was not yet fulfilled. Gentiles have no expectation of fulfilling the Judaic Laws because they are not made for gentiles. To this day the Jews do not follow them.
We have a fondness for Moses, the Prophets, and OT traditions, we do not hate the Old Testament, but the laws are no longer applicable in the new testament.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Last I checked, Heaven and Earth have not passed away. Maybe I blinked at the wrong time.
The Hebrews were tasked with setting up an example nation for the rest of the world to marvel at. This entailed some vigorous earthly enforcement of the Law.
Christians are tasked with being example people within sinful nations. Not sinning when your neighbor is sinning away is a harder task than not sinning when you can have your neighbor punished for his sins. In return for this harder task, Christians are granted more slack. See the text surrounding the Lord's Prayer.
As for the grafting, that's a connection between Judaism and Christianity.
As for the notion that today's Jews bear no relation to the Jews of Jesus' day, read the end times prophecies. Southern Baptists and related denominations tend to be zionist because they pay very close attention to those prophecies, unlike Catholics and Anglicans.
Tell you what, now that we are being civil. Please recommend a book with some writings of your favorite Church Fathers. I could use something other than the Bible to read on the Sabbath. It kind of gets repetitious even with different translations, and I am curious as to how Christianity transitioned from the religion of St. Paul to what came later.
Please recommend an edition that has decent sized print. I'm getting too old to read small print.
While I will try to keep an open mind, when a Church Father contradicts canon Scripture, I'll go with Scripture. For example, according to Luke Jesus said while on the cross:
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Keep in mind that Moses commanded that false prophets should be killed. Either a prophet who led people to worship other gods or a prophet who didn't make a verifiable prediction to prove his prophet status.
Jesus predicted his own death and subsequent resurrection after three days. Kind of hard to verify that prediction without killing him first. He also predicted the total destruction of the Temple, which happened a significant time after his death.
Some of the Levitical priests called for Jesus' death for selfish reasons after receiving lots of insults. Some may have been sincere. Note that Jesus chose a diligent disbelieving pharisee to become the apostle to the Greeks: St. Paul.
Your reading assignment, should you choose to take it, is to read the end times prophecies carefully. Thanks to our interaction, I'm in the process of rereading Revelations myself. It has been a while.
Hi there, yes my apologies for being a bit rude, sometimes it is too easy to troll online.
I read books on how to live the spiritual life, and lives of the Saints, I am not very versed on intellectual theology Church Fathers, which you may be more interested in.
Book recmendations:
1.) Spiritual Counsels III: Spiritual Struggle by Elder Paisios of Mount Athos
2.) Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica
I wish I had more intellectual recommendations for you, I also really enjoy “Orthodox Talks,” on youtube with Priestmonk Kosmas.
Vox Day is a fuckboi sigma poser and I feel sorry for any woman dumb enough to put up with that egomaniac. That whole group of people who claim to be new converts to the right or people who are alt right and transhumanists can't be trusted imho. They're arrogant and just as iresome as the progressive clown hair crowd most of the time.
There's right wing transhumanists, just like left and right acceleration stems from transhumanism. It took Theil way to long to answer if the human race was worth saving.
I expected acrimony from this post and got it. But I am surprised at the level of disagreement over my statements about "Judeo-Christianity." Quite a few of the comments deserve a non-snarky, decently researched response. So I've started reviewing some scripture I haven't looked at in a long time and hope to have a proper response in a week or two. The subject is extremely important. Judeo Christians form the core of the Republican Party. Expel them from the coalition and you lose the country to the Demoncrats permanently.
The first two in depth posts are now up:
https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/p/judaeo-christianity-101
https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/p/judaeo-christianity-102
How many Christians throughout history would have considered their heritage as “Judeo Christian?”
Zero
Judeo-Christian has always been a lie. It started as a lie to make it easier to convert Jews. It is now a lie meant to bend the theology of Christianity. As a Jew, I understand the intent behind taking something like this and trying to use it in a different way. But dishonesty is still dishonesty, and you can build nothing on sand.
We are Jews. And we are Christians. Against an evil pagan empire, there are many ways in which we can work together. But only from a foundation of truth.
How we break this to the core of the Republican Party? Your guess is as good as mine.
This is because you’re trying to bring basic bitch 80s boomer Republican evangelicalism to a platform where right wing discourse is significantly more advanced. Try Facebook.
Make sure to read 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
I would rather lose the country than see the horror of actual ”judeo-Christianity.”
God rebuke you.
Then get the hell out of my country.
No Boomer, we're not getting off your lawn.
The Judeo-Christian Zionist heresy will exit this world with the last boomer Evangelical.
I doubt Vox or his admirers (count me as one) will be as offended as you seem to think. Your political coalition building points are well and good but we tend to consider that ANY coalition that included neocons is more of a subversion than a solution. And Charlie Kirk was under their thumb until very recently, so we did not not care about him on a talk to the puppetteer not the puppet príncipe. That is a little reductive, but is worth it generally for clarity of analysis.
Do understand that the United States has forfited all consideration in the international scene. Its a giant rogue state that not only meddles and attacks everywhere, but has made vile murders of negociators SOP, like in the case of Iran, undermining protections of envoys that are older than the written world.
Which leads US back to Denis Praguer. I used to listen to his radio show. Don't let his avuncular manner and his well read facillity with the western Canon fool you, he is as rabid a neocon as his co-ethnic Robert Kagan (though the smarter of the two) and therefore an enemy of humanity in general and of the European Nations in particular.
As for conventional historography, read L'Europe et lá Révolution Française by Albert Sorel, a book often found on bibliographies but rarely taken to heart, and tell me your faith in Napoleonic studies survived. Like Vox and Unz, we tend to consider all history to be as full of comunication ops and psyops as modern Times. Better to be always on guard and all that.
Jesus is not a "Judeo-Christian", blasphemer. That claim alone is enough to dismiss anything you have to say about morality.
Are you saying he wasn't a practicing Jew? Seriously?
The faith he was raised in has virtually nothing in common with today’s Jews. It’s easy to understand this if you bother to search at all.
Jesus did deprecate many of the additions and subtractions to the written law that are still practiced by modern Jews. Jesus was definitely frown upon having a Sabbath Goy to do work on the Sabbath -- a clear violation of the written commandment. I don't he'd think much of the cord that surrounds Manhattan so Orthodox Jews can consider the area one home for travel purposes, etc.
Whom does the Bible say killed Jesus?
The Romans...at the request of the Levitical high priesthood.
The Bible twice directly says someone “killed Jesus.” Neither time was it about Romans. Stop lying.
everyone. Jesus was *willingly* sacrificed for the sins of ALL humankind. have you actually ever read the Bible, or paid any attention whatsoever in church?
Ok, so since Jesus did this willingly, it was not a wicked act of those who did it to him, and nobody bears specific blame. Do I have that right?
Some help for your research:
https://open.substack.com/pub/revmatthewlittlefield/p/christianity-did-not-come-from-judaism?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1envt0
my reply to that well written, but somewhat confused, article...
Yahshua was “Jewish” because He was from the tribe of Judah; Jesus was brought up in Judaism, but rejected it because of it teaching false doctrines and made that clear. He would reject many of the mainstream Christian doctrines of today as well.
Judaism is the manmade religion created in response to the OT scriptures. Christianity (mainstream) is the manmade religion created in response to the NT scriptures. both have been in error, ignoring the commandments of YHWH (Jesus/Yahshua) in that Judaism created its own laws making them equal to or above YHWH's laws and rejected Yahshua as Messiah, while mainstream Christianity rejects Jesus as Christ for disobeying His torah/instructions.
Jesus fulfilled (obeyed) His own law, yet deceived mainstream Christians teach that means it was selectively done away with; for example, falsely teaching “the 10 commandments are all valid laws of God, but not His Sabbath”. so mainstream Christianity replaced Jesus' own Biblically appointed times with pagan days of worship, like Christmas, Easter, and even Halloween — none of which are Biblical.
many among the manmade religions of Judaism and Christianity continue to “come out of her”, because both have exemplified themselves as Babylon for whoring after false gods. a great many more will accept Jesus Christ, Yahshua Messiah, in the very end of days when the final antichrist steps into the third temple which will be built (or partially built), and when YHWH returns to set up His Kingdom for 1000 years.
beware of adopting a self-righteous or prideful attitude about being Christian while also considering the “Jews” doomed to eternal death (or “eternal torture”, for those still deceived by the “hell” doctrines). carefully read Romans chapters 9-11. we Gentiles are the branches grafted into the trunk which is Israel — “Israel” has various meanings, but in this instance, “Israel” = the children of God.
if we are truly followers of Jesus Christ, then we are truly Israel in Yahshua Messiah — there is no separation between YHWH & Israel, His children. further, if we do not stand with “Israel” as the current nation of people in the land, then we are standing with satanic jihadists.
YHWH stands with ALL of Israel, therefore, so should we. 🙏🏼😎❤️♾️
the faith he taught has virtually nothing in common with today's mainstream Christianity either. it's easy to understand this if you both to search the scriptures at all.
so what's your point?
So that magically transforms Jesus and most of the 1st Century Christians, and most of those who wrote the Bible, into non-Jews? That's some powerful magic today's Joooz have over reality. Maybe Peter, Matthew, et al weren't really Christians because they have virtually nothing in common with the churchians of today.
The only reason anyone today says "Jesus was a Jew" is to pretend that today's Jews are somehow "holy" and "chosen" when anyone who pays any attention to the narrative arc of the Bible can see that they are faithless and cursed by God, and that's without even bothering to examine their behavior, which is unbelievably wicked.
I affirm exactly what the Bible says, the Jews killed Jesus.
Do you deny this?
Depends on what you mean by “the Jews.” Did Peter, Paul, James & John kill Him? Did Sylvia Lipshitz in Queens kill Him? No. Did heretical, unrepentent liars, thieves, and blasphemers, who happened to have the same DNA, frame Him for non-crimes and turn Him over to the Romans to be executed? Obviously yes.
Maybe the only reason you specify details is to fit some agenda. Others specify details when they are true.
You affirm the one part of the Bible that fits into your Narrative, and ignore or deny what doesn’t. You’re rather predictable that way.
Which part have I denied, slanderer? Be specific please.
technically, he *was* brought up in rabbinical Judaism, however, He wound up rejecting it because it was a religion of man, not of YHWH. many of His parables then slammed the corrupt priesthood for failing in its duties that YHWH gave them, particularly in the 5-part parable found in Luke 15 & 16.
Which religion was He calling demonic? John 8:44
actually, your comment exemplifies how ignorant you must be regarding Jesus Christ, Yahshua Messiah.
Indeed. “Well, guess who else was a Judeo-Christian? Jesus Christ, that’s who!” was where he totally lost me.
yet, Jesus/Yahshua was in fact Judeo-Christian. the fact that neither religion actually obeyed God all that well doesn't mean YHWH (Jesus /Yahshua) didn't give them TRUTH. they both have the scriptures, but both go whoring after other gods. so if you're lost in these understandings, i suggest studying your Bible further. Godbless... 🙏🏼😎❤️♾️
Zyklon the Great
Based. Purge the heresy.
“cease combining an entire ethnicity of people.”
A. I think you meant “condemning,” you moron.
B. You mean like God himself did several times in the Old Testament?
There are a lot of social media inflooincers who think they are so important, even tho Charlie Kirk did more IRL activism than they will probably do in their whole lives. "Look at me! I'm so BASED" It's just so annoying prideful. I think this John Doyle rant is probably the best take and I stand by it: https://youtu.be/RE0t_-aYUow?si=rRub6DvAoQOlo1NM
My post about picking a fight with Vox Day is in my top five. For some strange reason, a year later, comments are over 300, a few guys out of nowhere shredding each other, one of them mirroring Vox about Charlie. Quite pathetic.
I didn't know Vox's history when I called out his nihilism. I'm feeling rather justified.
https://williamhunterduncan.substack.com/p/i-picked-a-fight-with-vox-day
I had forgotten how much of the material in this post I had previously written in the comments section of your post.
Box is a self serving dark triad.
Not a Dark Lord
Your IQ was not high enough to pull this off.
When it comes to verbal IQ, Vox is above me. Mathematically, he is at least two sigmas below me -- as well as a bunch of his fans. I suspect you are too dumb to see the difference.
No.
YES.
I am glad I am not the only one who reacted this way 😂
I had to laugh at this one. I've known the man for 40 years. He's a physicist, mathematician and a coder (in approx. 20 languages) that was once tasked with coding special relativity considerations to correct problems with the nascent GPS system.
Most people know a little about a wide variety of things. FM can explain to the sub-atomic level just about anything you ask him. People are fooled by his relatively down-to-earth prose, but that's one of the things I admire the most about him.
No. Just no.
What is Dunning-Kruger effect?
"I am a fully licensed and certified asshole." Whoa, wait a minute. Licensed and certified by who? Where is the notarized and fact checked c.v.? I worked in the service of my country as a Deck Group CWO where the job description was "Paid Asshole". Now granted, I wasn't as great an asshole as any Marine CWO, but I was surely thrice the asshole over an Army or Coast Guard CWO. This is not a stolen valor issue, just that "it takes one to know one". I am certified (DD-214). I see nothing in your writing that gives you the right to declare you are an asshole. Except maybe glomming on to that hallowed appellation without proof. That was a weak but a sort of OK first step, I guess.
Yes, Jesus was a Jew. Similarly, George Washington was British.
As in: If that's all the info you have, you are bound to draw some sorely mistaken conclusions.
And England remained the primary investor in the United States after the Revolution and the United States still has strong ties with Britain. We have a President whose mother was born in Scotland.
Is Islamic King Charles the head of state of the United States?
Britain is technically a Christian theocracy. King Charles is a walking refutation to those who think we can be Christian Nationalist by becoming a monarchy.
A critical step to becoming Christian Nationalist is going back to being Christian. Charlie Kirk was doing more in this regard than anyone else in the country.
Well, on that front… I don’t think Charles is technically prohibited from being a Muslim in the same way he is from being a Catholic.
Yeah he is unable to be muslim.
At least my understanding is that to be monarch he has to subscribe to the 39 articles - https://www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/worship-texts-and-resources/book-common-prayer/articles-religion - and for that matter (because they are explicitly included in article 8) the creeds. No Muslim can agree to the bits of the articles and creeds that state that Jesus is God / Son of God, rather Muslims believe he was a prophet
Muslims can lie to infidels, it’s encouraged.
And IIRC Britain has had at least two prime ministers - Churchill and Boris Johnson - who could have claimed US citizenship
I'm surprised the English aren't demanding reparations from us for those two.
Ah, the US and the UK...we both have shit rulers.
That's not all the info he gave. You're either lying, or only read just enough for your knee to start jerking.
The George Washington example is appropriate. I cite you in my latest post: https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/publish/post/175471058
Glad to have contributed to The DiscourseTM
Jesus was the Son of God.
Well yes. Fully man and fully God.
Just because He's God doesn't mean He did not have a nationality.
What a load of boomer keyboard vomit.
First of all, the sad and heroic truth is that Charlie Kirk’s death accomplished much more for the Right than his life ever did. One bullet took him from a mediocre Zionist mouthpiece to an icon of resistance. May God have mercy on his soul.
Vox Day on the other hand has published dozens of high quality leather books that will last for centuries. His intellectual contributions to human taxonomy (his Socio Sexual Hierarchy) and economics (against free trade) are irreplaceable.
Oooooooh! A leather book! Oooooh! Ooooooh! I feel a tingle up my left leg. [titter giggle]
What are thousands of Christian conversions compared to a real genuine leather book?
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Clean the brown off your nose. It's disgusting.
Only baby boomers and gammas write with sound effects. And only gammas think admiring someone’s work is “brown nosing”. Yes leather books are fucking awesome.
Vox Day brought me a fantastic library. You brought me a shitty blog post to skim. Who do you think has my respect?
Baby boomer alphas have been known to mock with sound effects. Note our current president.
Let me try again without the snark. A well made book can last for centuries. Might even get read centuries later. A soul brought to Christ lasts even longer. Charlie Kirk was bringing the word of God to hostile territory and arguing for it to people whom you could never drag into a church. That is difficult but incredibly important work. More important than Vox's current projects. More important than mine.
There is no Christian Nationalism without the Christian part. Great Britain is a Christian theocracy on paper. Britain went post Christian well before the US. They thought of us as bumpkins because so many of us were still taking Christianity seriously.
As for the zionist part, Southern Baptists and related denominations pay a lot of attention to the end times prophecies in the Bible. Either the prophecies are wrong or Jesus isn't coming back until after the Temple is rebuilt. The old denominations claiming Apostolic Succession -- including the Anglican Church -- pay much less attention to these prophecies due to past false alarms.
Unlike past false alarms, there is now a Jewish state that is working towards rebuilding the Temple. Humans now have the technology to cause many of the woes in Revelation. Fire and brimstone like power we have had since World War II. We're getting pretty good at man made plagues. We probably have a few decades before we can divert asteroids -- but SpaceX' Starship will give us the ability to bring atomic engines to the asteroid belt, and the financial incentives to mine asteroids are truly huge.
Long lasting books might prove to be irrelevant. Making Christian converts is always relevant.
Boomer evangelicals gonna evangelically boom
He asserted that the souls of human beings are more importand than leather book covers. Your brilliant counter argument is to complain about sound effects and accuse him of boomerism.
Educational.
Boomer megachurch Judeo-Masonry isn’t saving any souls
That was my first thought. Gamma confirmed
Boomer Donald Trump was attacking free trade back in the 80s.
The social sexual hierarchy is likely plagiarized from Timothy Leary's 8 circuit theory of the human mind, which is described in Robert Anton Wilson's "Prometheus Rising." I know that Vox was aware of Wilson as Vox was a libertarian in the past and mentioned Discordianism in one of his comics.
And for the record, I'm only five years older than Vox. Spare me the Boomer bullshit.
Spoken like a true Gamma
Boomers are up until 1964. Vox is 1968. 5 years older means it is pretty likely you're a boomer technically. Functionally...yes.
"Vox Day on the other hand has published dozens of high quality leather books that will last for centuries. His intellectual contributions to human taxonomy (his Socio Sexual Hierarchy) and economics (against free trade) are irreplaceable"
That's a good one. I can just see the men of 3000AD listing the works of Vox Day along side Shakespear, Newton, Einstien, Adam Smith and so on. The leather binding absolutely shows the high quality and durability of the contents.
Oh wait you're serious!
You’re a gamma weeb. Everyone knows what you’re reading and it’s disgusting
Vox blocked me for "repeatedly defending boomers". Its funny because I merely pointed out that he was promoting all the bad ideas that the boomers practiced to run our society off the rails. If you think it is acceptable to sleep with another man's wife, or live a selfish, hedonistic lifestyle, completely unconcerned with how that will affect the rest of society, and our posterity, you are living with a peak shithead boomer mentality.
The "boomers" I was defending were men like my father who lives on less than he makes and will leave an inheritance to his children's children.
I've attacked Vox in his own comments recently, and trolled the heck out of him back on his old blog without him catching on, but this post is stupidly wrong.
Israel is blackmailing or bribing over two-thirds of Congress, has repeatedly spied upon and infiltrated the US government, and committed multiple acts of war against the United States. If you have American citizenship and adhere to the cause of Israel, giving them aid and comfort, as Charlie Kirk did, that is treason punishable by death under the US Constitution and Code, even if you look like you night be walking back some of that support later. There is no statute of limitations on treason, nor on crimes against humanity, which support for Israel's actions also is.
I'm cool with arresting Israeli spies playing this game in our country and impeaching those who are blackmailed yet serving in high positions of authority such as Congress. I'd love to see the dirty laundry related to Epstein even if no arrests are made. Remove the blackmail potential even if it causes embarrassment to the powerful.
Do keep in mind that such nastiness is pretty common. The blackmail honeypot game was a standard KGB tactic, and those who had clearances were warned to expect a seduction attempt should they visit the Soviet Union. The United States plays the same game -- TO OUR ALLIES. That's what disgusted Edward Snowden.
(If the Clinton campaign had claimed that the Russians have pictures of Trump sleeping with Russian seductresses I'd have believed the campaign. But since Trump was a known playboy, there would have been no blackmail potential. Trump could have said that the seductress was hot and a great lay -- great Russian hospitality -- and moved on. So the Clinton campaign had to move into unbelievable territory, etc.)
Wanting to protect Israel is separable from agreeing with all Israeli government policies.
Christian zionism goes back a ways. Long before Fox News, the closest thing to a television conservative news broadcast was Pat Robertson's 700 Club. Back when I was in high school it came on after Benny Hill. I used to get some great laughs over how over the top Pat and Ben were cheerleading Israeli violence in Lebanon.
You had me until “Nazi historians at Unz”. Surely you must be aware that the “mainstream” history of the “Holocaust” is mostly fabricated, right?
Read some David Cole.
lol I have, the question is have you?
Yes. He's a funny guy. I'd love to see him debate Tucker Carlson.
And yes, he is also proof that the gamma theater kid can be a playboy dating hot chicks, contrary to Vox's SSH bullshit. "Dead Poet's Society" isn't completely science fiction. (And yes, I have seen similar in the real world. Many hot chicks go for the sensitive New Age guy. One of Edgar Rice Burroughs' character complained about the phenomenon. I think it was John Carter of Mars.)
Cole(Stein) once said that Hitler had no chance against the greatest storytellers of all time. He knows that he is from The People of the Lie and that he is a degenerate jew just like all the rest.
The Holocaust is a lie and he knows it, yet he has backed off from his youthful assertions that gained him much notoriety.
It's not that hard to discredit Prager after he was exposed as a gooner on Pints with Aquinas. You are not credible, nor a reactionary, just a lazy reader and researcher.
Prager is a piece of shit jew marketing to stupid conservatives.
Owen Benjamin destroyed Prager in five words years ago:
“Dennis Prager the Penis Dragger”
You were making a solid case but then you lost me at Jesus was Judeo-Christian
Frankly, you suck.
How dare you even attempt to delegitimize the Dark Lord with such a Low IQ take?
One of Jesus' last acts as a human was to keep the Passover. Kind of a Jewish thing to do.
The Gentiles were grafted into the New Covenant Jesus Sacrificed his life for, The Old Covenant With Noah was annulled. The Righteous Religious Jews of the time like Nicodemus became Christians. The Pharisees made a whole new religion that is not righteous.
Yes Jesus was Jewish as a man, but he made a New Covenant and grafted gentiles in. This New Covenant has nothing to do with modern judaism.
Therefore Judeo-Christian does not exist.
Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Yes Observe the Jewish Laws because the New Covenant was not yet fulfilled. Gentiles have no expectation of fulfilling the Judaic Laws because they are not made for gentiles. To this day the Jews do not follow them.
We have a fondness for Moses, the Prophets, and OT traditions, we do not hate the Old Testament, but the laws are no longer applicable in the new testament.
Listen to St John Chrysostom not me
The Modern Synagogue is an abomination, worse than the theater and prostitution dens. Full of Wild Hyenas.
https://youtu.be/iC_X9pV6JGg?si=jExKWtNMaepc_iIj
OK, I have a proper response to this category of argument up finally: https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/publish/post/175471058
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Last I checked, Heaven and Earth have not passed away. Maybe I blinked at the wrong time.
The Hebrews were tasked with setting up an example nation for the rest of the world to marvel at. This entailed some vigorous earthly enforcement of the Law.
Christians are tasked with being example people within sinful nations. Not sinning when your neighbor is sinning away is a harder task than not sinning when you can have your neighbor punished for his sins. In return for this harder task, Christians are granted more slack. See the text surrounding the Lord's Prayer.
As for the grafting, that's a connection between Judaism and Christianity.
As for the notion that today's Jews bear no relation to the Jews of Jesus' day, read the end times prophecies. Southern Baptists and related denominations tend to be zionist because they pay very close attention to those prophecies, unlike Catholics and Anglicans.
I read the Church Fathers and The Saints
Begome Orthodox Friend
I do not get too deep into theology debates, just a simple layman. Check out Jay Dyer debate Zionists, or Other Orthodox Authorities/Church Fathers.
I pray you are cleansed from the error of Zionism.
Tell you what, now that we are being civil. Please recommend a book with some writings of your favorite Church Fathers. I could use something other than the Bible to read on the Sabbath. It kind of gets repetitious even with different translations, and I am curious as to how Christianity transitioned from the religion of St. Paul to what came later.
Please recommend an edition that has decent sized print. I'm getting too old to read small print.
While I will try to keep an open mind, when a Church Father contradicts canon Scripture, I'll go with Scripture. For example, according to Luke Jesus said while on the cross:
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Keep in mind that Moses commanded that false prophets should be killed. Either a prophet who led people to worship other gods or a prophet who didn't make a verifiable prediction to prove his prophet status.
Jesus predicted his own death and subsequent resurrection after three days. Kind of hard to verify that prediction without killing him first. He also predicted the total destruction of the Temple, which happened a significant time after his death.
Some of the Levitical priests called for Jesus' death for selfish reasons after receiving lots of insults. Some may have been sincere. Note that Jesus chose a diligent disbelieving pharisee to become the apostle to the Greeks: St. Paul.
Your reading assignment, should you choose to take it, is to read the end times prophecies carefully. Thanks to our interaction, I'm in the process of rereading Revelations myself. It has been a while.
Hi there, yes my apologies for being a bit rude, sometimes it is too easy to troll online.
I read books on how to live the spiritual life, and lives of the Saints, I am not very versed on intellectual theology Church Fathers, which you may be more interested in.
Book recmendations:
1.) Spiritual Counsels III: Spiritual Struggle by Elder Paisios of Mount Athos
2.) Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives: The Life and Teachings of Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica
I wish I had more intellectual recommendations for you, I also really enjoy “Orthodox Talks,” on youtube with Priestmonk Kosmas.
Christ be with you friend.
I will take some time to ask around and do some digging for more hard hitting early theological church Fathers and get back to you soon hopefully.
I am opening my bible now and reading revelations :)
Try reading the book of Hebrews, or Galatians.
Vox Day is a fuckboi sigma poser and I feel sorry for any woman dumb enough to put up with that egomaniac. That whole group of people who claim to be new converts to the right or people who are alt right and transhumanists can't be trusted imho. They're arrogant and just as iresome as the progressive clown hair crowd most of the time.
Transhumanists are leftists. It's a quest for The New Soviet Man under technocratic rubric.
There's right wing transhumanists, just like left and right acceleration stems from transhumanism. It took Theil way to long to answer if the human race was worth saving.